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Interview with João Pedro Stedile (National Coordinating Council, MST) Bernardo Mançano Fernandes São Paulo State University (UNESP) BMF: How do you evaluate the agrarian reform policies of the Fernando Henrique Cardoso (FHC) presidency (1995-2002)? JPS: It helps to first define exactly wha t an agrarian reform policy is. If we understand it as a development policy built on redistribution, that is, the break-up of large of land-holdings, then this did not happen. Just like it’s not happening now with the Lula administration (2003-present). It seems that these governments have a tremendous problem figuring out what it means to have an agrarian reform policy. If it wasn’t for the daily pressure of peasant movements, they would forget about even their own mediocre agrarian reform measures. But, we keep the pressure up, because the land is fundamental to our existence. It’s not just getting the land that matters. For the peasantry to exist and resist, it has to struggle constantly for a collection of national development policies. For this reason, the MST organizes not only for land expropriation and small-farm credits and research, but against the privatization of state property and nearly all the neoliberal package. How can you isolate agrarian reform from development policies? It’s impossible. The FHC administration had a limited vision of agrarian reform.
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